June 13, 2012 at 8:01 pm #6130
I side with TMH on this one.
Scheduling a D-II or D-III every now and then to either fill an open date or, as I imagine was in this case, to build good will and community interest (Muhlenberg is located in nearby Allentown), isn’t a sin. In fact, some basketball minds in the Valley might call it smart or praise-worth. What’s the big deal? The game stats- positive or negative – do not affect our RPI. And, we’ll probably play 13 or more D-I contests and, with a bit of luck in scheduling, continue the upward trend (see below) in our OOC RPI.
Season / OOC RPI
09-10 / 341
10-11 / 274
11-12 / 224
12-13 / ?
Some might say that LU scheduling a D-II or D-III game is like……..
#1 Kentucky scheduling and beating Radford (RPI 309)
#2 Ohio State scheduling and beating Jackson State (RPI 336)
#3 Michigan State scheduling and beating Nebraska-Omaha (RPI 327)
#4 Kansas scheduling and beating Howard (RPI 320)
Yes, it all happened last year. I guess the only real difference is that the results of those games were factored into the schools’ RPI and each of the losers made buckets of money.
Oh yeah, in case you didn’t know, six teams in the Nation’s Top 30 (Pomeroy) last year played a game against either a D-II or D-III school. So, Lehigh isn’t alone -or for that matter so isn’t Bucknell, Navy, or Army who each also played “down” against W. Alabama, Penn St. – Altoona, and Marywood, respectively. Back to the six in the Top 30, they were:
#9 Wichita State vs. Newman
#13 Georgetown vs. Chaminade
#14 St. Louis vs. Illinois – Springfield
#17 Baylor vs. Paul Quinn
#23 Belmont vs. Trevecca Vazarene
#29 Michigan vs. Ferris State
Let’s sit tight for awhile and see what happens.June 15, 2012 at 3:02 am #6132
Does anyone have a feel for our chances of getting an ESPN Bracket Buster game? C.J. should create some viewer interest, and we certainly were a bracket buster.June 15, 2012 at 1:55 pm #6133
Great question. I suppose we will have to wait until early February to see how the season plays out. Since the purpose of this series is to give exposure to mid-majors (check) who could possibly make some noise in the field of 68 (check), Lehigh will be given strong consideration. From a ratings perspective, if everything goes as planned, I would think a Lehigh-Murray St. matchup featuring McCollum vs Canaan would be a dream matchup in this format.June 15, 2012 at 3:46 pm #6134
For those interested in the history of the Bracketbuste Program, check-out the stories below. In the first you’ll see that 142 teams participated in the 2012 program. They came from 14 conferences (none from the PL) with only 26 making it to the big time (TV coverage). Soon after those games were played, it was reported in a GMU Blog (second story) that ESPN dropped the CAA.
I’m not sure when the 2013 BB games will be played or even if the PL will be asked/invited/agreed (whatever the right word is) to participate but it’ll be a tight – if not an impossible – fit based on the PL Schedule of Games which includes conference matchups on 2/9, 2/13, 2/16, 2/20, 2/23, and 2/27.
2012 Bracketbuster Schedules
ESPN Drops CAA from Bracketbusters
http://georgemasonbasketball.blogspot.com/2012/04/espn-drops-caa-from-bracketbusters.html#disqus_threadJune 15, 2012 at 5:48 pm #6138
Sorry, I cannot advocate scheduling a Muhlenburg. Going to Stabler to see us hammer the Mules, is about as exciting as watching curling reruns. Don’t worry, I hear we have 5 for 1s in the hopper with Moravian and Cedar Crest.
The only thing more ridiculous than that game is the tweet from the Muhlenburg player. D’Orazio could drop 40 on that scrub. CJ will barely get out of his sweats for that game.June 16, 2012 at 3:15 pm #6153
A thought about Muhlenberg
If I’m not mistaken, isn’t every team allowed 2 scrimmages prior to the start of the regular season. If the scrimmages ere against Div 1 schools , it had to be closed but if you play a lower classified team, it could be open and played with all the trappings of an in-season game.(LU 65 likely knows).
1.)If so, are we certain that Muhlenburg is not pre-season?
2.) If it is not, which is likely, why not play it that way? It provides all the benefits that LU65 described without tieing up a spot on the schedule.
3.) How does the timing of the Pre-season NIT affect the above?June 20, 2012 at 2:32 pm #6164
Another tidbit about the 12-13 schedule via twitter:
Andrew Chiappazzi @achiappazzi
Looking more certain that Preseason NIT pod will be #Pitt hosting #Fordham, #Lehigh, & Robert Morris. Pitt/Fordham, RMU/Lehigh 1st gamesJuly 11, 2012 at 11:53 am #6243
Per twitter, LU @ Sacred Heart Nov 27.
Good blog post by fran fraschilla from late june on espn on under radar teams, and he lists two in our backyard that I think some of us believe are the types of schools we should be trying to play next year…st joes and drexel, would love road game at either school this year, would be great.July 11, 2012 at 3:15 pm #6244
You can add Quinnipiac (Northeast Conference) to the list of rivals in 2012-13. No date has been announced, but it appears that they’ll be hosting American, Colgate and us out of the Patriot League this year (see first link below). No real surprise here, the Bobcats have been perennial foes and it is after all “their turn” to host us this year up at the TD Bank Sports Center in Hamden, CT. Apparently, the school couldn’t be more proud of their recent success, giving head coach Tom Moore (93-65 record) and extension thru the 2016-17 season (see second link below). Last year the Bobcats finished 18-13 (10-8) and ranked 138th on the Ken Pomeroy scale. And, they did it all with just two seniors, Kevin Tarca and the team’s leading scorer, James Johnson (see third link below).July 11, 2012 at 4:30 pm #6245
So, where do we stand right now? Please feel free to add onto this, as I’m sure I am missing games. And most, if not all, of these are still unconfirmed and may not pan out:
Preseason NIT w/ Pitt, RMU, & Fordham
@ Sacred Heart
And as 65 mentioned earlier, likely ongoing series with some of Cornell, St. Peter’s, Wagner, Farleigh Dickinson, Bryant, and UMES.July 11, 2012 at 6:48 pm #6247
Looks like this article from Andy Katz at ESPN will shed some light on the upcoming schedule:
Add VCU to the list you already had. Interesting there are still 4 open dates left even in mid-July. It appears some high and mid majors don’t want a game with LU after the Duke win.July 11, 2012 at 6:49 pm #6248
Katz article confirms Pre-Season NIT and road trips to Baylor and VCU. Really excited about VCU game.July 25, 2012 at 10:24 pm #6309
Don’t make plans to travel north to Ithaca anytime soon. Cornell just released their schedule for 2012-13 and we’re not on it. Instead, the Big Red will entertain Bucknell and Colgate this year. Can only assume we had a two-game contract covering games in 201-11 and 2011-12.July 27, 2012 at 12:28 pm #6312
You can add Fordham to the confirmed list (see Fordham’s announcement below) – once for sure and then again maybe a second time. The Rams will come to Stabler on Tuesday, December 4th and be a part of the Pre-season NIT out in Pittsburgh. Should we be in the Pittsburgh POD (all but a foregone conclusion) we could meet up with them there (Nov 12-14) or perhaps in the Consolation POD (Nov 19-20) should we not advance to MSG for the NIT finals. Based on what I assume will be our high-ranking seed out in Pittsburgh, we could very well be selected to host the Consolation POD games should we not advnce to the NIT finals.July 27, 2012 at 4:57 pm #6314
Thoughts on the bracketbuster posts from last month:
1. Lehigh, or almost anyone else in the PL could participate if they wanted to. The bracketbuster is not selective at all and will take almost anyone. Back in the days when Bucknell and Holy Cross participated, Colgate did also at one point. All of them decided that the negatives outweighed the positives and dropped out. I am sure Reed feels the same way.
2. There are two possible positives: (1) IF you have a really good team, then there is a possibility of getting a game on some ESPN network; and (2) if you are having a really hard time scheduling games, then continued bracketbuster participation locks in two games a year on the schedule (may also be a negative).
3. The negatives:
– You may end up playing someone you have no desire to play – and you are locked into playing them home-and-home.
– You may be forced to take a long bus or plane ride late in the year which may affect your play in the more-important final league games. For example, Bucknell had to travel to Northern Iowa one year and take a 7-hour bus ride (one way) to ODU another year.
– By participating, you must give up your free Wednesday midway through the PL schedule. That means a bus ride midweek and losing the week of rest and recovery time that everyone else gets. Could affect a team in its next PL game. Maybe more.
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