13-14 Postseason Hoops Awards

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  • #13793
    StablerBum
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    Nice (and expected) to see Tim win ROY. Mackey named 2nd team all league, and Austin joins Tim on the all-rookie team. There was a tie in rookie team voting which means the team has 6 players instead of the traditional 5.

    Lehigh also the only team with multiple all-rookie players.

    #13796

    pafan11
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    SW 43% FG, 2.1RBS 27Assts 3.3pts 15 min per game
    AP 37% FG, 1.9RBS 28ASSTs 8.5pts 26 min per game

    Who had a better year?

    #13797
    Bison137
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    I think Price likely had the better year, which is probably why he played a lot more.

    Effective FG Pcts (which includes the value of 3-pointers): Price 48.5%, Whitfield 42.9%.

    Price also had far fewer turnovers per minute and far more steals. Roles were quite different, so it’s hard to compare most stats.

    #13798
    StablerBum
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    I’d say AP had a better year. He was probably #4 or #5 on the scouting reports of opponents, while SW likely didn’t garner much of a mention at all. SW is a superior passer, but other than that I don’t know what else SW did better than AP this year.

    This was a coaches vote, so the other 9 coaches who watch extensive tape and gameplan against all these guys thought AP was a top 6 freshman. The fact that Lehigh had the ROY, another all-rookie pick, and two more freshman that showed flashes of potential (MS and SW) is a good sign for the future.

    #13800

    lfnadmin
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    Some think Mackey was robbed for 1st team All-PL. Something to think about for Wednesday.

    #13801
    StablerBum
    StablerBum
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    I saw Housenick’s article as well – http://blogs.mcall.com/varsity/2014/03/lehighs-mcknight-a-glaring-omission-on-patriot-league-first-team.html

    What he neglected to mention was that none of the first team selections played for teams with losing league records. I think Mackey may have had a chance for first team had Lehigh finished stronger but losing 5 of the last 6 games in the league likely ended that possibility.

    #13802

    TMH
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    I made this comparison much earlier in the season. Now that the regular season has ended, I thought it may be interesting to revisit

    Gabe Knutsen
    Freshman season
    27.6 min 9.5 ppg (.521) 5.6 rpg .9 A/g .2 Bl/g and .4 spg

    Mike Muscala
    Freshman season
    24.8 min 9.9 ppg (.462) 4.9 rpg .8 A/g 2.2 Bl/g .3 spg
    Sophomore season (MVP)
    28 min 14.9 ppg (.511) 7.4 rpg 1.4 A/g 2 Bl/g .4 spg

    Tim Kempton
    Freshman season
    26.1 min 13.2 ppg (.522)7.0 rpg .7 A/g .4 Bl/g .6 spg

    #13804
    Bison137
    Bison137
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    I don’t think anyone other than Housenick thought Mackey had any shot at all at the first team. With Hinrichs and Cormier taken out of the competition by injury, the first team was fairly predictable.

    I found from his days covering Bucknell that Housenick does not follow the league very closely, with the exception of the specific team he is covering.

    #13805
    Bison137
    Bison137
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    QUOTE:

    I made this comparison much earlier in the season. Now that the regular season has ended, I thought it may be interesting to revisit

    Gabe Knutsen
    Freshman season
    27.6 min 9.5 ppg (.521) 5.6 rpg .9 A/g .2 Bl/g and .4 spg

    Mike Muscala
    Freshman season
    24.8 min 9.9 ppg (.462) 4.9 rpg .8 A/g 2.2 Bl/g .3 spg
    Sophomore season (MVP)
    28 min 14.9 ppg (.511) 7.4 rpg 1.4 A/g 2 Bl/g .4 spg

    Tim Kempton
    Freshman season
    26.1 min 13.2 ppg (.522)7.0 rpg .7 A/g .4 Bl/g .6 spg

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    Nice comparison. It will be interesting to see how Kempton develops. One thing that helped Muscala is that he was very young for his grade – 8-12 months younger than most in his class – which gave him a lot of upside.

    Looking just at PL games – which is more apples-to-apples and which also takes out the early learning-curve games – here is how they compare:

    Kempton: 26 mpg, 12.9 ppg, .522 FG pct, .657 FT pct, 7.3 rpg, 0.6 apg, 3.0 t/o’s, 0.4 bpg, 0.7 spg 3.1 fpg.

    Muscala: 29 mpg, 13.1 ppg, .507 FG pct, .866 FT pct, 6.5 rpg, 0.9 apg, 1.1 t/o’s, 2.5 bpg, 0.2 spg, 2.0 fpg. Made 2nd-team All-PL.

    #13806

    lehigh90
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    I have two thoughts after looking at Rookie award list.

    1) First, at least Monty Boykins (who we offered and recruited heavily) does not look like a great player over at Lafayette. Pretty dismal shooting averages from 2, 3 and the line. Not sure if he was totally recovered from his high school injury.

    2) Second, you often don’t know how these rookie awards will pan out. A guy like Rob Keefer was PL Rookie of Year for Lehigh, and by his senior season rarely played. His role diminished as subsequent players and classes saw a talent upgrade. There is a ton of guys over the years that saw this happen. Applied to a guy like AP, does he grow into a large role, or do future incoming players take away his minutes as team hopefully gets more talented and improves?

    #13809
    StablerBum
    StablerBum
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    Good thoughts ’90. Opportunity often plays a large part in the rookie team selections, and both AP and TK had lots of it. The backcourt competition will likely get more intense next year despite the loss of Mackey. Ross, Alston, and Jenkins will all join the fight for minutes at the point and on the wing.

    Interesting that you brought up Boykins. I was very high on him while we were recruiting him. He was recovering from surgery this season, and when he was getting into the flow a bit (10 points vs Colgate and 13 vs Bucknell in January) he had another season ending injury. I still think he could end up being a good player for them, but certainly the injuries are a little worrisome. I think Hankerson from BU will end up being an excellent PL player as well.

    #13811
    Bison137
    Bison137
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    Yes, Hankerson definitely has a lot of upside. With Irving and Robinson both graduating, he should get a lot of playing time next year on a team that will have a lot of talent.

    As you say, Boykins looked pretty good vs Bucknell, but then broke his hand right after that. I think he will be a good player down the road.

    #13848

    hawktalker
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    I don’t have the stats, but how does this freshmen class compare to the 2013 graduating class. CJ and Gabe started all year, Holden joined them as thousand point scorers by the end of their careers. TK started all year, AP most of the year. SW was a starter briefly. Will that class be as good as the 2013 graduates? I think not

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