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    Hawkineer2
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    Other than the current freshman class, LU has not done well in the new scholarship era. I don’t know why but there has been difficulty getting D lineman and RB’s for example. Other PL teams seem to have done better in the prior 2 or 3 years and this seems to be catching up – along with the coaching issues.

    #21710
    ngineer
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    Not sure what metrics you are using to make such a conclusion. We lost two RBs from last year (Leigh and Yosha). This year we got three pretty good RBs. Of course, such’gets’ are on paper and subjective ratings. Cavenas last year and several DLs this year. I get concerned about the turnover in the coaching staff. Lack of continuity, changes in techniques, schemes can lead to unstable results. We have a lot of young coaches right now (almost half of the staff last year was new). This could be part of our transitional problem was well.

    #21716
    van
    van
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    ngineer has a good point, big big changes in D scheme which I for one think are having a very positive impact in spite of the thumping at JMU.

    I am staying positive on this team until I see the results of the next two weeks against competition where we are not clear underdogs

    #21741

    Hawkineer2
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    Answer to the point about metrics is below:

    I’m not sold on the ‘superior’ talent just yet. Two of the junior lineman, tenant and duffy, were ballyhooed as best OL prospects we ever had. I am not seeing it from them yet, and its TIME if they were as good as advertised. And despite skill guys with ‘better’ credentials coming in, I dont see a Spadola or Drawl in the bunch. Those guys were specimens AND had big time talent. The guys we have now are undersized, even TP doesnt exactly standout. To be fair, he must be dinged. But Knott, Soccaras, Casey, Kelsey, are not big strong kids. We may have gotten two steals at RB with Micco and Dom, but they are green. It will still take time to develop kids, schollies or not, there is some maturing and finishing that only time allows. Either way, I just dont see the studs. Hell, the announcer on the JMU broadcast said Dom looked like Rudy. That hurt.

    And look at the D. Caslow is all over the field, but he’s the only one. And look closely…he’s SS sized. he looks like all of JMU’s DBs. And we sit two big ass

    fullbacks each freaking week that should be LBs (Pennridge kid and Freedom kid). The hogs up front are not as beefy (porky?) except for Cavenas.

    Pick a favorite guy at any position from our better years…I dont see multiple Groome’s, Spadolas, Lums, Bergens, etc. We would typically get lucky with one stud like that at a position and with scholarships I think we should have a few at each position. I am not seeing it.

    Read more at http://www.lehighsportsforum.com/forums/topic/the-road-back-to/#5doJF4kHum7iJiHV.99

    #21752

    Doc Qb
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    Hawkineer, that’s my quote, appreciate that u may be seeing what I do, but sorry that we r seeing that at all. But Van is right, we’re not top ten FCS, so maybe JMU isnt best barometer, and we wait to see the next IVY match ups, into league play. I was hopeful we’d be farther along to compete w JMU-types, schollie-era. I also think an element of the coaching turnover and a potential bust at OC is all combining to make a perfect storm of bad for us.

    We right the ship by going all out at home against Penn, they have longtime assist as new HC, and havent been as strong lately. Time to show learned something as a program last two weeks, have some pride, move forward.

    If we dont, I think all of our combined gripes turn very, very real.

    #21757

    Hawkineer2
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    Yes – it is your quote – I give you total credit and will cite you in the future as you size things up well. I stand by the fact that recruiting in the two years before the current freshman class was not as strong as needed and this is reflected in our record of late.

    #21772
    marco
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    Could it be coaching?

    Kids needs to be developed. When LU’s at its best, the assistant coaches are stellar. You can see the players improve from week to week. Under Checcini and Kotulski this was true. You would also see the fruits of half-time adjustments, again, when these two were here. They both deserved the opportunities to move on, but Andy had done a poor job of replacing then, in one man’s opinion.

    To me, this year is a crucial one for Andy, although I am extremely aware that LU football head coaches seldom are given their walking papers. (Mike Cooley?)

    #21784
    ngineer
    ngineer
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    No question we miss Coach K. He had a “Whitehead” persona about him and was a real defensive guru. Cecchini missed as well. I’d love to see him work with this group of QBs and receivers. Folmar was supposedly a great QB-D2 All-American, which is no slouch. He may be good at coaching QBs, but in terms of creative play creation, I don’t see it. I don’t see many crossing patterns, and the TE is virtually forgotten. We use the TE once or twice a game—and usually to great effect. But then forgotten. Why is a play that works great not used again, later? Like anything else, keep doing it or variations of it, until they show they can stop you. Sometimes I think coaches get ‘too cute’ and get into mind games with the opposing Coordinator. If your players are as talented as you say they are, then let’s do it.

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