Hate Gate Week

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  • #23669
    hawkineer
    hawkineer
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    [quote=23666]

    Im distraught over this loss, I really believed we would win PL title, drinking as I type :(

    Rusty Nail for me. Really thought we could take them. So close.
    I know how bad we feel. Just imagine how down the kids must be. Feel so bad for them.

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    I feel terrible for the offense.

    The defense should feel terrible and embarrassed. The question is when does the defense get angry at itself after coming within a whisker of giving up 50 points for the 4th time this year and play with some real aggression. My guess is not until Monmouth at the earliest.

    #23670
    RichH
    RichH
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    Talking about the bus ride :). Expect we will agonize over it much longer than they.

    #23671
    van
    van
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    [quote=23668]Come on, “the kids” get over these games much quicker than you would think. Guaranteed most of them will be doing what any other 20 year old student is doing on a Saturday night…drinking and looking for some ladies.

    [/quote]doubt they will find many ladies on the bus ride home

    #23673
    RichH
    RichH
    Participant

    Short tweeted a little while ago “5 goddamn yards”.
    About sums up how the team ferls on the ride home.

    #23675

    LehighGuy
    Participant

    now a days a 20yr old is a freshman and soph atthe latest. how do the jr
    s and srs feel…….like sheeeet, long three and half our bus ride hoime, probably quite on the bus.

    #23676

    LehighGuy
    Participant

    come on man. how about a goal line D. not sure what game you were watching but we had ALOT of 3rd and 7-8, our corner couldnt cover anybody. i was yelling turn around so many times im horse now! they got beat and couldnt tackle, pathetic is my word for today!

    #23677

    Doc Qb
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    Our goal line D is our base D, except the LBs creep between the DL, and that means #10, Harvey, at 190 lbs is in the box. Well, on goal line and on short yardage downs they ran right at him. He cant be expected to take on a tackle or guard at that size. Botts NEEDS to bring in another DL in those down and distances or on goal line. You knew they would run, get some bigger bodies in.

    On a related note, when we are in zone covereage, guys dont cover, they ‘sit’ in the zone and let the receiver come to them. The db’s didnt make plays on the ball in the seconad half like they did early, and it easnt like they had speedy WRs or a big arm at QB. We should have been able to load the box, play man on those WR and force them to beat us with what wasnt their strength, going thru the air. Yet, they still beat us both ways.

    Shaf made plays whether he underthrew a few or not. The receivers do wait for the ball to get to them, something they dont with Mayes. Less zip on throws. Yet, we left two TDs on the field, not scoring on second half opening drive and at the end. The final series had good play calling until last four plays. When the doubled Pelletier wide to the right, Folmar and Shaf shoulda been licking there f’n chops, that opens up other side for a combo route or slant. And its not like Sasha and Casey cant mKe big catches, they can. We gotta punch it in there and go for two…dont give them another chance on O in OT, treat the two pointer at end of regulation as one you would have to take in OT after several cycles.

    We had our shots. I think the offense and offensive staff has progressed. Our D has not, need wholesale change for coaches there, and really hope some of our youth at DB reaches potential with new, better leadership. Now, time to BEAT LAFAYETTE!

    #23679
    RichH
    RichH
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    Well put Doc.
    So tired of writing and reading so many of the same things we said last year about our D. D,unlike last year,has shown flashes even extended periods od good play. Bottom line tho is nearly identical to last year. We have much better ahletes. Yet we lack any consistency. Harvey and Caslow at ILB? Why go to a zone at all. Not for pass D. Only logic was so DBs faced the LOS to stop Melville. Well that didn’t work. He didn’t have to scramble ,WRs now open.
    My point is that tinkering with schemes has not worked. Changes must be made.

    #23681

    holyloch61
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    Why in a tie game would you not take the field goal and take the lead ??? With the FG the fumbled punt NEVER happens and our D has a chance to stop there O .The play calling from the 5 yd line with almost 2 min. and a time out left should have all Lehigh fans wondering who is calling these plays .You have a 230 lb RB and maybe the best running QB in the PL and you try 4 pass’s ,when the whole game the RB ‘s were running for good yardage .Maybe this goes back to last year at Holy Cross when the O tried I think 5 or 6 running plays from the 1 or 2 yard line and did not score which lead to a loss that Lehigh should have won .Feel sorry for all the players in this loss .I also think the coaching staff has to take some responsibility in this really tough loss .

    #23684
    ngineer
    ngineer
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    A tough loss where made more mistakes than ‘gate. Not kicking the FG when the game was tied at 4th and 4 still has my head spinning. The dropped punt led directly to a go ahead TD, when we could well have taken the lead. Not running at all in the last series is troubling, and the lack of ‘attacking’ Melville is bothersome. With a running QB like him, I believe in penetrating to disrupt his options. He was way too comfortable and a strong runner. Arm-tackling was not bringing him down. Major soul searching needs to be done about the Defense for next season.

    #23688
    sundayamqb
    sundayamqb
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    Seems to me our D, with the rover, is set up to stop today’s passing game.

    Before today, though, we averaged giving up:

    IN AIR: 255 ypg (add 173 vs Gate) — 108 out of 123 teams in FCS

    ON GROUND: 187.8 (add 316 vs. Gate) — 80 of 123 teams

    Our two Patriot League losses were to teams that RAN ALL OVER US — as some of you have pointed out on big plays.

    Many of us think there is real, individual talent on D. Why shouldn’t we think that? There’s a lot of talent on O, too.

    So why can’t we stop anyone? Could it be this D scheme?

    Several of you have pointed out its shortcomings. Certainly doesn’t seem nimble, but rather focused on stopping pass (which numbers above prove it has not accomplished).

    #23692

    lfnadmin
    Keymaster

    Did Bragalone take a helmet-to-helmet hit on that 3rd-and-4?

    Watching the replay of that final drive is sheer agony. On 1st and goal. Amankwah-Ayeh was wide open underneath and a little dink to him would have been an easy TD.

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    #23694

    lfnadmin
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    #23697

    hawktalker
    Participant

    It’s been said on this board for weeks that Lehigh would go as far as the defense would carry us. That proved true. Colgate had not scored more than 31 points in a game all year. 42 points should be enough to win a game. Again yesterday it was not. The onus remains on the defense next week especially if the offense is without Bragalone

    #23698
    LUHawker
    LUHawker
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    Where to begin. Obviously the defense is problematic, but let’s start with a clear shortcoming – where was the QB pressure? How about a blitz, or stacking the box or anything than sitting back and waiting. The “patience” approach didn’t work, so why not adjust. I think this is a scheming problem more than anything else.

    Why the hell didn’t Andy take the FG? We were playing catch up all day and had the chance to change the sequence, but NOOOO, Andy goes for the jugular far too prematurely.

    Where the hell was Mayes? He wasn’t trotted out there one time to even give Colgate a different look. Shaf really played a great game, but he still throws passes short and the receivers have to wait on the pass as he doesn’t hit them in stride.

    Special teams were not so special. Kick-off coverage was porous and our returns were hit and miss.

    The last series – stunningly painful to watch. Not one F’ng run play after all that success all day. This was almost as painful as the last series against UMass in the ’98 playoff game.

    Overall, this is another game where I now question the coaching. The talent is there,especially on O, but changes need to be made.

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