Jordan Cohen, commit #2

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  • #21816

    toddcudd
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    As mentioned last night, we got our second 2016 commit in PG Jordan Cohen. He’s a 5’11” PG from California. I posted a link in the 2016 thread to a video from last year, which I really liked. I’ve found a couple of other bits about him; at the ESPN link you can see the beginning of a scouting report. Full report would require “Insider” access.

    CoBL Article

    ESPN

    I also found a more recent video, highlighting his offense, at Scout.

    Scout Video

    #21841

    TMH
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    Here is another fine article on Jordan. I may be fun following his progression this season. He appears to be growing…or someone is exaggerating . He went from 5-10, 5-11 to 6-0 in the articles I read. :-)

    http://theleftbench.com/basketball/college-basketball/jordan-cohen-overlooked-underrated-and-ready/

    #21874

    lehigh90
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    This signing doesn’t thrill me. It’s, again, a position we have no urgent need to fill (doesn’t seem to be a potential starter for 2 season), and very pedestrian high school numbers 11.5 ppg and 4.5 assists. He says he is going to score 30 a game this year, and play some power forward. I’m not holding my breath. In video looks like a capable ball handler, and good jump shooter, but he is going to have a very tough time finishing in traffic at that size, without crazy athleticism, which he seems to lack. I don’t think we have landed any difference makers with our first two signings. They look to project to future role players.

    #21875

    Hawkineer2
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    sadly true

    more mediocrity

    #21876

    toddcudd
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    Certainly not going to tell anyone what they should or shouldn’t think of this signing – but I do think it’s pretty premature to make too strong of a judgment. He played next to a 2-guard who’s on his way to UCLA, so I don’t think his primary role was scoring. And ESPN gave him 3 stars, which isn’t meaningless. Only time will tell, I suppose.
    In terms of mix, my hope was to see us get a PG, a SG, and 2 forwards. In terms of my expectations, we’re halfway there.

    #21878
    jimk72
    jimk72
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    Quick point of interest……. I like reading the scouting reviews available on ESPN Insider, and Cohen is listed as a two star (not three) there, but has a decent (not fantastic) 68 overall rating. Andree however has three stars at ESPN, not two as listed at Verbal Commits, and has a 70 overall rating. None of this means much once they get to Bethlehem, but ESPN analysts like them a lot for mid-major consideration. Another question is Cohen’s height. ESPN says Cohen is 5’10”, 155. VC says 6’1″, 180……. Maybe he grew, started lifting…. ????

    #21879

    TMH
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    I’m in total agreement with toddcudd. We tend to forget that these kids have not yet played their senior season. If I’m not mistaken Jordan’s #s are about the same as AP’s in his senior season.
    I never understood the rating system but Cohen is ranked as the #69 PG in the class. I suppose if we were a top 30 team, we should be scratching our heads but we aren’t. This signing was designed to replace MS. I look forward to seeing him develop.
    With that being said, we could really use a banger with one of our next 2 signings.

    #21880

    TMH
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    PS…Henry Welsh, we’d love to have you here at Lehigh

    #25832

    TMH
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    I guess we all thought that JC2 was crazy when he set his goals at 30-10-7

    His team has just been eliminated from the state tournament 69-68 to LaSalle..His line was

    Jordan Cohen: 32 pts 11 Rebs 6ass Final Score: Campbell Hall 68 La Salle 69

    and he has put up at least a half dozen games just like this

    #25833

    lehigh90
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    He had a big season, no doubt.

    #25838

    lehigh90
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    JC2 is intriguing to me after his senior season. But, here are my concerns. He’s probably under 6 feet. He’s been listed at 5’10”, 5’11” and 6’0′, that leads me to believe he is under 6 feet tall. He is a PG. We have a first 2 All PL PG ahead of him. So, he doesn’t look to start for 2 seasons. At his size, I’m not sure he will be able to play off the ball on the wing. If he does, he will be guarding much bigger players at a minimum. My last concern is his scoring ability at the collegiate level. To be a scorer at 6’0″, even in the PL, you have to be a premium athlete. Unless you are a flat out deadly 3 point shooter. It is going to be very tough to finish in the lane at that size. Now, KR is starting to score at probably 5’10”, but his outside shooting has really, really improved, and he has developed a nice midrange jump shot. He rarely finishes at the rim, but does take the opportunity when available. But, I have a feeling KR is more of an athlete than JC2 from the limited video we have seen.

    But, I hope this kid is a player. Reed has brought in a steady stream of excellent PG’s during his tenure. Hoping JC2 is the next in that line. Looking forward to seeing this kid. If he is a rotational player next season, we should have a ton of depth.

    #25844

    TMH
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    Due to my rose colored glasses, I’m far more optimistic. ESPN, City of Brotherly Love and a recent newspaper article all have him listed at 6-1. Players are rarely as tall as they are listed but I’ll assume he is a bona fide 6-0 which puts him in the same range as Ross, McKnight, Simelton and CS1. ESPN has him listed as a SG (actually the #75 SG in the country). I think he will be a combo guard here until KR graduates and maybe even press KR for some minutes.
    Can he score against PL competition? Well, one of those 32 point games he had this year was against Sierra Canyon which is currently the #6 team in the country.

    #25845

    lehigh90
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    [quote quote=25844]and maybe even press KR for some minutes.[/quote]

    That might be beyond rose colored glasses.

    #25849

    TMH
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    Earlier this year, several posters lamented the fact that MS was no longer on the team. Part of that rationale was that KR had no one to push him and therefore his production went down. Whether that is true or not, I don’t know but my hope is that JC2 will provide enough quality depth that KR doesn’t have to play 35 mpg. Just my opinion.

    #25853

    toddcudd
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    Approve of TMH rationale. And I have no reservations about a 6′ PL 2 who can score.

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