LIU Brooklyn – Game 11

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  • #12596

    LU65
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    Game Notes

    Lehigh’s
    http://www.lehighsports.com/custompages/Game%20Notes/Men's%20Basketball/2013-14/11%20-%20LIU%20Brooklyn.pdf

    LIU Brooklyn’s
    http://liuathletics.com/news/2013/12/8/MBB_1208134809.aspx
    Monday, 7:30pm, Stabler Arena, PL Network

    LIU Brooklyn (2-5) Ranked 269th
    NEC (22nd ranked)
    @
    Lehigh (5-5) Ranked 213th*
    Patriot League (17th ranked)

    KenPomeroy weigh in on tomorrow night’s game………..

    Lehigh wins 76-69 (77% chance)

    • Despite 3 W’s in a row and 4 wins in our last 5, this is our worst ranking of the year. No surprise here after shaky win over a 2nd tier America East conference foe. Our highest/best ranking of the year (#161) occurred going into the Fordham game.

    The Blackbirds, who spread their scoring evenly between Reed, Martin, Atterberry and Parga (all averaging 11.1 to 12.6 ppg), will undoubtedly start no one taller than 6’6” (only a couple of 6’7” role players will be on the bench) and bank on their ability to hit the “3” to keep the game close. Martin (#4) and Parga (# 1) hit for .455 and .467, respectively, from deep. The team as a whole hits for .359 from long range. On defense, LIU struggles containing the opponents’ 2 pt. shots, giving up 57.7% of the attempts. Only 10 teams allow a greater percentage of shots from in close. The team from Brooklyn also has trouble “turning a team over” via the block (4.6% of possession s) or the steal (5.8% of possessions). We should have little trouble moving the ball. The Blackbirds do, however, excel in one area. That is shooting the free throw where they posting a team .741% average. Of particular note is their senior guard Jason Brinkman. The young man holds the distinction of being the least penalized (#1) played in America. He’s committed just 2 PFs in his first seven games for a rate of .33 PF for every 40 minutes of action. And, here I thought our Corey Schaefer was good! Our guy comes in at #132 with 1.9 PF per 40 minutes.

    So, if all goes right, we head into exams at 6 and 5 with two quality opponents (Quinnipiac and Bryant) waiting in the wings before the start of PL play. After all the trials and tribulation, isn’t this where we expected to be?

    #12597

    toddcudd
    Participant

    Injury update from the Morning Call today. CB to return soon, probably Quinnipiac, SC soon after. Unfortunately, the AD update is not as good. Apparently, they have not been able to even identify what’s wrong yet – no timetable.

    http://blogs.mcall.com/varsity/2013/12/lehigh-men-to-get-healthier-soon.html

    Thanks go out to Tom H., for getting us the update we’ve been waiting for.

    #12598

    toddcudd
    Participant

    CoBL preview for this one:

    http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/12/lehigh-preview-liu-brooklyn-dec-9/

    And “4 factors” preview:

    http://basketball.realgm.com/ncaa/preview/2013-12-09/Long-Island-at-Lehigh/150745

    4 factors looks similar to last game, with less TO edge for us. I found an interesting correlation after looking at this. So far this year, if we get 21 free-throw attempts or more, we win.

    #12599

    LU65
    Participant

    Here’s another stat you may like and “take to the bank.”

    While we may escape with a “W” on other occasions, we seem to always win when we achieve .600 or greater in A/FMG while, at the same time, out-rebounding our opponent. It’s happened twice this year (Rider and Sacred Heart) and nine times last year. In each instance we won the game.

    Watch! I probably jinks ourselves tonight. Sorry if I did.

    #12600

    TMH
    Participant

    Perhaps a little off topic here but to answer the question of why we are bringing in 2 players with PG mentalities… Over the next 2 years we will be losing 73% of our assists (on a per game basis) and 31% of our rebounds (same basis so CBs #s are extrapolated).

    #12601
    StablerBum
    StablerBum
    Participant

    Perhaps a little off topic here but to answer the question of why we are bringing in 2 players with PG mentalities… Over the next 2 years we will be losing 73% of our assists (on a per game basis) and 31% of our rebounds (same basis so CBs #s are extrapolated).

    I think those #’s are a little misleading. There are no front court players playing behind established veterans. We know exactly what we have as for as personnel in the front court for years to come. We don’t know exactly how they will improve, but they have all been given a chance to perform. It’s very hard for anyone to rack up big assist #’s with the amount of time the ball is in Mackey’s hands.

    MS has not, and will not, get a chance for major minutes until Mackey leaves. I think he will be a very good PL player. I agree with bringing in another PG in this class and have no problem with that. What I don’t get is why bring in TWO and ignore the fact that there is no back-up to Kempton on this roster or next year’s?

    #12602
    jimk72
    jimk72
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    <span style=”font-size: large;”> Just a theory on not getting a 5 to back up Kempton this year or next. Quality 5’s are like hens teeth. And the only way to get a quality 5 at our level is to get very, very lucky, and be able to offer serious playing time immediately. There are a few project 5’s out there from time to time. We’ve had ’em. And as we have seen, project 5’s are difficult to get on small airplanes in the OOC schedule, almost always are ornamental on the bench, & take up a scholarship better used elsewhere.</span>

    And a question….. any way to make the type set just a little bigger? I’ve tried and you see what I get…
    <span style=”font-size: large;”> etc…..”

    • This reply was modified 6 years, 10 months ago by jimk72 jimk72.
    #12604

    youngfan
    Participant

    Agree that the guard overload is not wise. It suggests a lack of planning and focus. Also, it is not fair to the players by limiting playing time.
    It is true that finding “non project” 5’s is tough but LU does need a decent back up at that position. If TK goes down, the team outlook heads too far south under the current guard happy mindset.

    #12605

    LU65
    Participant

    KenPom nails it……..76-69!!!!!

    #12607

    toddcudd
    Participant

    Our young guys are starting to draw some attention. See this thread, between Kevin Doyle and CoBL from twitter:

    https://twitter.com/KLDoyle11/status/410275557243650048

    #12609
    StablerBum
    StablerBum
    Participant

    Nice win at home last night taking care of business. The four freshman combined for the following stat line:

    89 minutes, 41 pts , 14 rebounds, and 4 assists. Pretty impressive.

    #12611
    jimk72
    jimk72
    Participant

    Was at the game last night, which was really a foul-a-thon due to officials’ whistle obsessions. General non-afficionado’s perspective: It seemed each time we were about to put LIU away, there’d be a mix up in defensive assignments leading to an easy basket. Or they’d throw a pass to no one because SM thought SW was going out rather than in. Entire game LIU was all over TK who responded with a lot of fight underneath. Very welcome response from someone who usually looks very laid back. AP had several three’s roll out and still ended up 3-6 from there. MS had a higher number of minutes at the point. Started by dribbling ball off his foot on in bounds pass, then had a very serviceable, much more aggressive night. MM & CS solid as always.

    I’m trying not getting overly optimistic, but I get the sense they’re just beginning to scratch the surface. Rebounding positioning is still a big problem but my bottom line is they hustled all night, got the job done, and they consist of 1 senior, 1 junior, 1 sophomore, and 5 players in their first year of college ball.

    #12612

    toddcudd
    Participant

    Right with you, jimk. One other observation – I was impressed with MS’s defensive quickness. Seemed that he made Brickman’s life difficult and hurt his production when he was guarding him. I might try to rewatch some of this game – that’s one of the things I’d like to look for.

    #12621

    LU2012
    Participant

    Last 6 games…
    TK: 53 REB / 168 MP = .315 REB / MP
    JC: 44 REB / 164 MP = .268 REB / MP

    Not too shabby when you have TWO first year guys pick up a double-double on the same night.

    Lots of progress being made on this team.

    #12622

    TMH
    Participant

    The stat that caught my eye was the 3 assists from TK. Teams are continuing to collapse on Tim. His entire game continues to improve but as he begins to see the floor better and kicks the ball back out when nothing is there, Lehigh suddenly becomes very hard to defend.

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