Loyola: PL Game 3

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  • #30231

    lehigh90
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    Awful. I think they were up 7 with a minute to go.

    If you shoot 57% and 46% from 3, and lose, it tells me one thing. Your defense sucks.

    #30232
    RichH
    RichH
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    Look our D was bad all night. Team went into coast mode then could not get back in gear. Dont get why I’m seeing the same crap as last year. Inconsistent ficusand D. Worse this team lacks the will to win. They know how to do it they jyst aren’t willing to put out enuf to get the W. Thevteam we saw vs Xavier has dissolved.

    #30233
    travism
    travism
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    I feel Reed and staff must see blame to. Why not run the offense the last two mins and get the balll inside to Tim. The players not playing a full forty mins. Shame on them. But I also feel it comes down to coaching again. We are looking at no ncaa tourney app in four years with Lehigh best big man ever. Pretty sad. The bad thing is this team has done this for a year or two now so nothing is going to change. A

    #30234

    lehigh90
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    If Kempton gets no NCAA trip that will be the biggest shame in the history of the program.

    #30235

    CHIP72
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    I realize that teams’ level of play changes from game to game, but from attending the Lafayette/Loyola game in Baltimore on Monday night, I can tell you the Greyhounds are NOT a good team. The fact Lehigh lost to that team at home while comfortably leading late is simply appalling.

    Hopefully the loss gets Mountain Hawks’ asses in gear. One comforting thought is last season Lehigh eventually put everything together and played very well after a slow start in Patriot League play.

    #30236
    van
    van
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    why did we lose this game? no shortage of reasons, but most troubling to me is the # of turnovers, this has been a problem all season, 15.6 per game does not get it done

    #30237

    lehigh90
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    Two related things need to happen. TK and AP need to take the reigns and lead these guys. And, the young guys need to really play for their seniors and get them a trip to the Tourney. Players need to play.

    #30238

    lehigh90
    Participant

    Another thought….

    Next 2 games are now MUST wins. Can’t lose at home to bottom feeder American. And, can’t let Bucknell go to potentially 5-0 in conference when Lehigh could at best be 2-3, and 3 games back with loss at Bucknell.

    We really need to run the 6 here, then get revenge shot at BU at home on 1/30.

    #30239

    LU65
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    Agree, agree, agree with what everyone has said – especially the decision to take the air out of the ball over the final few minutes of play, but allow me to offer, a new to some but old theory to others.

    8/10 th of a second remaining and Loyola’s Andre Walker drains his 5th three of the night – a step-back beauty over our freshman Matt Holba (who is still spinning on his tired heals) and our world on this Board has come to an end. Like most everyone else, I pin it on our D and certainly not our “O.” There, besides less than desirable numbers out of PA (0 for 3 in 3’s) and a spotty effort out of MH (8 pts. / 6 turnovers), we had (A) a season high performance by JC (10 pts on 3 for 4 shooting including two 3’s, 7 assists, and no turnovers in 36 minutes; (B) ball movement/superior shot selection (22 assists on 28 made field goals) that yielded FG%s of .571 (1st half) and .458 (2nd half), (C) the magic of KR with 9 assists, 2 turnovers, and 15 points in a gurgling 38 minutes of play, and (D) solid numbers out of TK.
    Following the game up at Army, Coach Reed was quoted as saying, “Defense travels” as one of the reasons for our road win. Well, last night – playing over the Mountain at Stabler – the D didn’t have far to go. Instead, it took the night off and was a complete no-show in the second half. There are plenty of theories out there, I’m sure. But, one that I subscribe to, have voiced it before, and fear it could be our undoing this year is “manpower.” Good “D” takes, in my way of thinking, more energy than good “O.” Simply fresh legs and/or stamina. We had it for the first 20 minutes and gradually lost it over the last 20. We allowed 6 more made field goals in the second half than what were made in the first half with many coming from long range. It was our undoing and can be seen in Loyola’s accuracy numbers of 59.3% in H2 vs. 40.0% in H1 . To make matters worse, nearly half their hits came from long range. I don’t think we’ll survive a long season having to play, as we did last night, 4 men – giving each 33+ minutes – and get so little production out of our subs. And, last night – due to KL’s illness – that equated to three men compiling 9 points in 32 minutes. Compare that to Loyola’s bench production last night of 22 points by 6 men over 64 minutes of playing time. I don’t know about you, but I’m getting tired of seeing more guys on our bench dressed in blue blazers and business suits than uniforms. Sorry for the long rant.

    #30241

    toddcudd
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    +1
    Strongly agree re: depth. It’s true that missing CS and JL could be considered bad luck. But injuries happen.
    By my count, we currently have 11 scholarship players. That does not include LT – I truly don’t know how transfers “count” during their mandatory year off. But starting off at least one man down is proving costly.

    #30242
    van
    van
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    well we were almost 2 down with BA getting few minutes and almost invisible when he was on the floor, two years in a row where bench is depleted

    #30243

    toddcudd
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    In case we need a little salt in the wound: Pomeroy tracks win probability throughout the games. With 2:17 left, down 9, he had Loyola’s odds at .4%.
    Ouch.

    #30245
    Bison137
    Bison137
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    [quote quote=30243]In case we need a little salt in the wound: Pomeroy tracks win probability throughout the games. With 2:17 left, down 9, he had Loyola’s odds at .4%.
    Ouch.

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    Also for over 37 minutes – from the 17 minute mark of the first half until about 45 seconds left in the game – LU’s win probability never fell below 89% for even one second. I guess that’s why they play the games – but a stunning outcome.

    #30248
    RichH
    RichH
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    Speaking if depth
    What is Lieb’s situation??

    #30251
    travism
    travism
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    I heard Reed say a week ago I thought that lieb has started doing some things in practice and they didn’t think it would be to much longer. Funny thing to me is this guy don’t warm up with the team or anything. Just sits on bench in a suit. If he were really close. Wouldn’t he still dress and possibly warm up with the team. I hope thus isn’t a Holba situation

    Side note. I agree offense was not the problem. But dud Tim even take more then 4-5 shots in second half? I don’t believe so. He was 7-11. 11 shots for the two time player of the year???? Timmy needs to get 16-18 shots a night. I blame the game plan and also the players for not going to him more in last five mins. Still really bothered by this loss. Because let’s face it. This team will not learn from this. They didn’t th past two years, why would They now

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