Meet John Ross Glover

[StablerBumParticipant]

Yeah, I totally see your logic, and it is very possible. My gut says he is on scholarship, but what you say makes a lot of sense.

There also has been no release about Simelton signing. Wonder if we will ever find about JRG, or if this will turn into one of those multiyear questions…

[Bison137Participant]

I don’t have any idea whether he’s on scholarship – although I’d be surprised if he is not.    One thing, however, is that a recruited athlete such as Glover cannot receive need-based aid, or most other types of financial aid, without being a counter.

[LUHoops00Participant]

Good rationale 65, as your logic does make a lot of sense. My gut says he is on scholarship, just based on his story/background not based on production last year, but if we could ever have gotten him as a walk-on along with CR, that would be quite the steal for Lehigh. Time will tell, we’ll learn soon enough, excited to have him in program as the staff must think highly to make a move on him…..

 

[LU65Participant]

Bison 137 is right to bring up the notion of a “counter.” The NCAA defines such a person as “an individual who is receiving institutional financial aid that is countable against the aid limitations in a sport.”

Two thoughts come to mind here. Perhaps Bison 137 could further educate us.

One, wonder if the aid an individual receives is not deemed “institutional,” (four examples follow), would that individual be deemed a “counter?” I presume not. For example: (1) Aid from Parent and Legal Guardians, (2) Prepaid College Tuition Plans, (3) Outside aid awarded solely on the basis of having no relationship to athletic ability, and (4) Outside aid awarded where athletic participation is a major criterion, provided the value of the award or in combination with other athletically related financial aid does not exceed the value of a full grant-in-aid or the value of the award in combination with non-athletically related aid shall not exceed the student’s cost of attendance. If the recipient is recruited, he/she is considered a counter and the amount is applied to the maximum award limitations for the sport in question.

Two, the idea as expressed in (4) above when it states “if the recipient is recruited.” Does this mean an active recruit or would it include athletes formerly recruited as was the case with JRG?

All this is to say that I still believe there’s a chance we’ll get to know JRG as “walk on.”

Expect for the saga of Cole Renninger, never has a relative unknown received so much attention on our board. Hey, it’s the off-season. What are we to do?

[Bison137Participant]

I believe that anyone who was ever recruited would be considered a counter if he later received  most forms of aid.   To be considered a “recruit” by the NCAA, the player must fall into at least one of the following categories

1.  Took an official visit

2.  Coach had more than one conversaton (in-person or phone) with player or his parents.

3.  Had pre-arranged off-campus meeting.

4.  I think there’s another – but I can’t remember it.

 

If Glover had an LU offer, as reported, I’m sure he fell into at least two of the above.

 

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