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  • #897
    RichH
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    If I hadn’t just watched this fiasco I would not believe what I saw. The D played as good a game as humanly possible. They were fantastic even with the injuries. Other than Colvin and the 1 scramble by Lum, was there anything on Offense that worked or even made sense. I feelthat neither qb has any confidence at all in passing. neither seems able to go thru the progressions . There were a number of 2nd receivers open that were not seen. Play calling . I mean what more can be said. It sure hasn’t gotten any better. Execution by O also inconsistent all game, lots of mistakes and missed assignments. Coaching, coaching ,coaching. I lived thru the bad years of the 60s and 80s . Expectations for those teams were notthat high. This year is so much worse. We should be better but we in fact are worse.

    #899

    Historian
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    Today’s game set the Lehigh offense back by nearly 50 years to the Mike Cooley years. 0 for 10 on third down conversions, horrible efficiency in the passing game and no healthy, experienced running backs. Another loss by seven points or less — I think that is 11 for Coen.

    What are the defensive coaches doing that the offensive coaches aren’t? I am afraid the over under on remaining wins this season is 0.5.

    #900
    hawkineer
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    "Historian" wrote: I am afraid the over under on remaining wins this season is 0.5.

    It’s Bucknell or bust for the rest of this decade! :oops:

    #901
    RichH
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    Coen is 0-3 this year and 1-13 for his Lehigh career in games decided by a TD or less.
    Lived and played thru Cooley reign. He was a great line coach but not a HC. LU also in midst of deemphasis that leckonby could not stop until the damage was done.

    Dunlap, Small, Whitehead, Lembo, higgins all hired very good coaches. Coen’s hiring on offense clearly have not been too good. Loyalty is admirable but the continued ineptitude on Offense in the 4th year should give him acluethat all is not right . Saw lots of missed assignments and mistakes on O. The responsibility is on the teacher to do whatever is required to get the student to understand the material. Players are not solely at fault here. The offensive coaches seem unable for whatever reason to teach these kids how to win.I think Andy keeps looking at kids performance to see what can be fixed. He should have lookedat his offensive staff.

    I am too old now to go thru another 5 or 6 year rebuilding period, but it appears that is what we have in store

    #902
    ngineer
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    The ineptitude of the offense screams for Brown to go ..NOW! Before more damage is done. We have no QB coach to school the kids. Brown never played from what I have heard. Clarke and Lum seem to be regressing, but the play calling is horrendous. There were glints of a ground game, but never any commitment to it. It’s ‘helter skeleter’. Try this, try that. No rhythm. The only quick slant we tried was completed, at the end, which resulted in the pitch fiasco. Most passes were deep with either overshooting a couple open receivers or throwing into double and triple coverage. 23 years since Lehigh last shut out—but that was at Navy–this was the second worst team in the Ivy. Bucknell is in no way a ‘given’. I see a 2-0 final, but no idea who will win. I have not been so thoroughly pissed as I am since the Holy Cross debacle back in 2007, when the team quit. The defense was absolutely magnificent today. Unfortunately, Cribbs couldn’t get the handle on the blocked FG to return as he could have gone all the way. Additionally, we had to glorious opportunities at a fake punt today. Smith could have run for 30 yards as the entire side of the Yale return team was running downfield. AFter it happened the first time, one would think our coaches would have seen that and called to his attention. The fake punt by Yale was seen as coming by many in the stands when the one ‘up’ blocker did not do his usual ‘turn’ back before the snap. If we saw it in the stands, why didn’t the coaches? This program is in free-fall right now and Sterrett may have to force some changes if Coen doesn’t have the spine to do it.

    #920

    LU65
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    Allow me to chime in ……..

    Granted, our offense is young and inexperienced (5 sophomores and 1 freshman in the starting 11 on Saturday) but due to coaching – or lack thereof – it appears more inept and clueless than its age might suggest. It’s akin to watching a ship set sail without its rudder. And, isn’t it strange to see a unit take the field each week without its captain? Yeah, I know the players before the start of every season choose their captain(s) and this year the co-captains just happen to come from the defense. Well, that’s first for me. Are the offensive player ranks that void of wisdom, talent and spirit not to have someone – anyone – emerge as a captain pick? A little research will show that for the prior 10 years (and probably back further into history) there’s always been a least one member of the offense to serve in that capacity. Believe me, I do not blame our lack of success in moving the ball on a missing captain or two. I just thought it strange and perhaps a contributing factor to the malaise our offense finds itself in. Have you ever see less emotion on the field or along the bench? Or, when was the last time you saw a receiver show-up his QB (hands-up, shaking his head, look of disgust) for a ball not being thrown his way? Where’s that something called teamwork? Like nearly everyone else, I am sick of watching our coaching staff tear down and not build up an already fine program they inherited and one that I and other loyal alums have supported since our undergraduate days. The offense has become a comedic side show, as true football is being played only on one side of the ball these days. It’s time for the University to step up and take action to regain the respect of its fans (and likely some of its players). Employment contract(s)of those responsible parties must be terminated. Not later but now!

    #921
    RichH
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    I was listening to Phil Simms this AM NFL pregame. His point on successful O was synchronization of parts. Without that no matter how good the individual parts, the unit will not produce. He was alluding to coaching staff’s continuity as a part of that process.As coaches work together OL coach WR coach etc can work together with OC to produce a unit that can score points.
    We have continuity here but perhaps an absence of talent or leadership. When a ship is sinking first priority s/b to fix the ship not rearrange the deckchairs.
    Andygoing to look at the tape. Fine,as far as it goes, to identify mistakes and errors but it does little to address the problem.WHAT IS NOT BEING DONE TO TEACH THESE KIDS WHAT THEY NEED?It is blindlingly obvious that coaching over the last 4 years has done very little on offense to put these kids in a position to win. 1-13 in close games and 0-3 this year and Andy still wondering why?

    #922

    lu90
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    1-13 in games decided by a TD or less. Back-to-back games of less then 100 yds passing, 0-13 on 3rd down yesterday. Going for it on 4th down against Princeton, Fade patterns on 4th and 1. I hope there is ZERO chance Coen/Brown returns. Not a "slim" or "very little" chance. ZERO. The only thing getting me through this year is thinking about next season with another coach.

    There appears to be some young talent. Barkett has looked good in limited opportunities. Colvin, looks like he could impact games with his feet. We’ve only seen one pass attempt, but we’ll assume he can throw. WR are young and appear good. Get rid of Coen and Brown now. Don’t take the chance of letting them continue the downward spiral.

    On the defensive side of the ball – Keep up the good work.

    #927

    Jackson
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    Good point about the offensive captains LU65. Being a close friend of Kevin Higgins, I can say Kevin always recruited players who were captains of their H.S. teams. It was a major emphasis. All this talk of Andy being a great recruiter, and perhaps he overlooked what made Kevin a better recruiter and coach.

    #930

    Historian
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    This was Trustee’s Weekend at Lehigh, so they saw first hand yesterday’s debacle. And some of them do care about football.

    #933

    LU65
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    This morning on the "Mike and Mike" Radio Show (ESPN) I overheard the following commentary and couldn’t help but think how well it applies to Coach Coen.

    When it is said, "It’s not a question of IF but WHEN," then when should be now!

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