Northeastern now Hofstra drop football. Schollies dead?

[RichHParticipant]

Not good news certainly for those schools but following the tried and true vision of "What about me?" it does make schollies a much more unlikely prospect for PL. Presidents can now refer to those schools and say see danger of scholarships. Lets wait and revisit issue in a couple of years. Not optimistic for any resolution of merit aid in this climate

[colorless-raiderParticipant]

"RichH" wrote: Not good news certainly for those schools but following the tried and true vision of "What about me?" it does make schollies a much more unlikely prospect for PL. Presidents can now refer to those schools and say see danger of scholarships. Lets wait and revisit issue in a couple of years. Not optimistic for any resolution of merit aid in this climate

Since going to scholarships is a cost neutral deal what’s the problem. I see no connection.

[RichHParticipant]

I am not saying rationale is accurate just that it will be raised. And scholarships are not revenue neutral for all PL schools. Altho, heard HU’s rationale on radio. Pres said drop had nothing to do with finance but rather that school body was not interested in games. He noted that HU has over 12,000 students and even with free tickets could not get more than 500 kids to come to games. He felt that $ would be better spent on programs that would actually benefit students rather than wasted on a program which no one was interested in.

[lfnadminKeymaster]

"RichH" wrote: I am not saying rationale is accurate just that it will be raised. And scholarships are not revenue neutral for all PL schools. Altho, heard HU’s rationale on radio. Pres said drop had nothing to do with finance but rather that school body was not interested in games. He noted that HU has over 12,000 students and even with free tickets could not get more than 500 kids to come to games. He felt that $ would be better spent on programs that would actually benefit students rather than wasted on a program which no one was interested in.

I don’t trust what this guy says at all. In his initial statement, he said that finances were an issue. Then, the BOT said that it wasn’t an issue and that no other programs were not going to be affected. Then he did a 180 and said it wasn’t about finances but because students didn’t care.

I have a lot more thoughts on the situation, too:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2009/12/northeast-football-endangered-species.html

[Bison137Participant]

"RichH" wrote: And scholarships are not revenue neutral for all PL schools.

Yes, they are definitely not revenue neutral for a number of PL schools, including Colgate.

[JJHParticipant]

I’m not sure how scholarships can be revenue-neutral, unless paid for by an endowment fund, such as Lehigh has for wrestling.
Can someone explain this? JJH

[RichHParticipant]

I think what he is saying is that cost factor in switching to merit aid results in same $$ being spent for players on aid. Most LU kids on aid now get a portion paidnot all. i.e. Lum on scholarship that pays all but 4000. If he was switched to merit aid $$ increase by that amt. It is not a 1-1 ratio. Then must take into acct title IX with eguivalent aid for women.LU has no issue here as we have included all aid for Title IX but some schools have not , Lafayette for one.

It was anticipated that any merit aid allowed by PL would be gradually added up to 40 full rides. Schools could of course fill in up to 63 with need aid

[lusportsfanParticipant]

I’m just curious. What would be LU’s interest in having any player from either of these schools transfer to LU? I’m sure they will be given the opportunity to continue their fb careers at other schools if they so desire. Just wondering.

[colorless-raiderParticipant]

"Bison137" wrote: [quote="RichH"] And scholarships are not revenue neutral for all PL schools.

Yes, they are definitely not revenue neutral for a number of PL schools, including Colgate.[/quote]

COST nuetral. Trust me.

[RichHParticipant]

OK I’ll trust you, but since not all current grant aid is full scholarship the switch of necessity has to cost more $$. Some kids based on need get full grants but at least at LU not that many. Not as much as lafayette which has to now actually use the funds allocated to women’s sports, but still more. Probably not an enormous amount so it is not an issue for LU .
The 2 drops do provide more ammo for the status quo forces in academia and a convenient rationale to delay any decision to some unspecified future point

[colorless-raiderParticipant]

Well you are right about that. Any chance to delay or not make a hard call is their mantra.

[NeighborParticipant]

Not surprised.

The Greater New York Area is not interested in "lower level" anything. Had Hofstra been competing (even losing) at the FBS level, the program would have continued.

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