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[LehighGuyParticipant]

TMH, glad you a stat guy. You forgot to mention the 5-6 turnovers by the offense. That does count in a football game lol. The D was working with short fields all night. Please recognize we only have 4-5 plays. The D isn’t great, we know that. Put all the turnovers with it they don’t have a chance.

[RichHParticipant]

True enuf LG. D is inconsistent at best. We lost because of the TOs more than penalties (10),missed tackles or playcalling.
But TMH is right that mor often than not when we needed a stop ,D could not get it regardless of the yardline.
We know that ghis year we will only win when O outscores the other guys. O shot ghemselves in the foot repeatedly with penalties and giveaways.

[LehighGuyParticipant]

Nice observation BUDDY, it was hilarious but true! TMH, more stats! Yaaaaay, TP broke the record for receptions in a losing game. I think ANY LU receiver could’ve broke that record on quick passes to the outside! Congrats to TP! I guess Dom will be freshman of week once again in a losing effort. Still kept feeding him the ball down 21, even the PU announcers had to laugh at the LU play calling! They was all for it….lmao. 5-6 or 6-5 hopefully is what we can expect!

[TMHParticipant]

LG,
I’m sorry that you are allergic to stats. Sometimes they can be helpful. I’m not sure what 4-5 plays you think we ran but let me give you some more stats
TP’s 15 catches went for 158 yds. If I can get 10 yds/catch, I’ll take it all day.
If I go back all the way to the JB Clark days, I can only find 2 games where we amassed more yardage. That includes 2-1/2 years with Lum and all the Dave C years after his return. The play calling was just fine. Turnovers and defense were the problems. I have no idea why you hate Brags so much but you need to get it checked.

[sundayamqbParticipant]

Sorry for the length of this …

I listened to some of the game and have a couple of other minor questions/one point:

1) At the end of the game, AC seemed to be making excuses for the D, saying there were five (I think he said) freshman in the secondary and they’re not strong (I’m guessing physically strong) enough to take down some of the bigger, stronger upperclassmen RBs they’re asked to tackle. He may be right, but am I missing something here? Is there more than McCloskey, who, I’m guessing was in there for Lawson?

What did you guys see as the reason for the poor D against the run? Or pass?

2) The radio announcers seemed to like Jarrod Howard, a junior WR, who made his first few catches of the year (after having only one last year). They said Knott sat out such of second half.

Questions: Sounds like Howard had a great game. Like Githens, if these guys are that good, why have we not seen them earlier? Is it time to give guys like this more time and sit others who are not producing?

Anyone think Knott was benched?

2) Was there another RB in there today to spell Bragalone? Seemed like no one else had carries.

3) A thought: Sure, the O was inconsistent, but the D gave up almost 500 yards AGAIN (479). Does anyone really think a D like this is going to stop Fordham, Bucknell and Colgate (not to mention Yale, HC and Lafayette unless they shoot themselves ion the feet)? If you do, I’d like to know where you buy your happy pills.

Other than the fact our O-line is more settled and that we have more/better offensive weapons– giving us a better chance to score more — I question whether we can play perfect enough on O to win consistently against middle-of-the road FCS teams.

As long as we have a defense like this, there is no chance for playoff glory, IMHO. And that’s the ultimate goal. Giving up 500 ypg (Penn got 476 last week, and let’s not talk about JMU) is not sustainable — in fact, it’s more of last year. Problems like this can’t be turned around overnight.

• This reply was modified 9 years, 6 months ago by  sundayamqb.
• This reply was modified 9 years, 6 months ago by  sundayamqb.

[TMHParticipant]

sunday,
I was at the game so I have no idea what the announcers were saying. McCloskey was the only frosh DB that I saw in the game. You are correct in that he took Lawson’s spot.Leaks, Riguad and Jones seemed to be the other DBs for almost the entire game. Not sure what AC was trying to say.
I don’t know if Knott was benched but I suspect he has small hands. The pass that went off his hands really hurt. With Sansone hurt, I suspect we will see more of Howard in the future. He caught everything thrown to him today.
The O needs to finish a bit better but they showed me a nice blend of run and pass over the last 2 weeks. Your observation on the defense is spot on IMHO. We will score points this year. I just don’t think it will be enough to replace the one’s we give up.

[RichHParticipant]

Nana spelled DB. Did OK. Dont get comment about DBs.Regardless of year, They all were missing tackles. Or more prscisely Tiger RBs and WRs wers running thru
them. Front 7 were not terrible. We did have some good plays,stops and a few good series. We also had a bunch of drives by PU that our D were mere spectators.
All of that said take out the TOs and its a dead even game whuch is what I expcted. We handed them the rout on a silver platter.
Cut those out next week we beat Yale at home.

[sundayamqbParticipant]

Thanks for the quick responses RichH, TMH. Looks like Nana had a couple of good runs (to think he was almost out of the picture at one point over the winter — ??)

[vanParticipant]

Nana only played the last series with the second and third team guys, Crawford spelled Brags most of the game but Braggs rarely came out

[Engineer86Participant]

I would agree with LG view of offense, except those plays worked for the most part. I wanted them to run up the gut more as it was working.

The two late scores in 1st half hurt, but Shafs fumble after picking up the first down seemed to heighten the pressure. Of course the turnovers overall killed us. I walked away from that game thinking we were not a bad team. I guess the TOs do count though.

On Knott, I was sitting down low and saw AC following Knott down the sideline saying something, honestly could not tell if it was encouragement, getting on him or responding to something Knott said.

Did I miss something where was Casey, I did not even see him on the bench. I got into the game a little late with score 10-7 when I got in.

I agree on the tackling. that is what drove me from the stadium, when Atwater ran over two players after the TP strip.

[vanParticipant]

the 2 balls through the WRs hands really hurt, watching the video it looked like the passes were thrown a bit behind the receivers although it was hard to tell without a good replay, not making an excuse for WRs but maybe a factor

Princeton O is going to give Opps a lot of trouble this year, don’t be surprised if they end on top of Ivy

[LehighGuyParticipant]

TMH I do not hate the Brags kid, said nothing bad about him at all. I hate our D. Im sure you know the 4-5 plays im talking about, every D does. Keep your stats if they make your day, only stat that matters to me is the score

[RichHParticipant]

Guessing Casey got hurt in practice.
The difference yesterday was TOs. Sadly our D is what it is . It hasn’t improved makedly in 3 years. Even with that the game should have been a nailbiting shootout betwern evenly matched squads. The TOs by themselves were a swing of 21 pts at the very least.
Yale and Bucknell are winable games.

[lfnadminKeymaster]

My recap of the game:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2015/09/frustrated-lehigh-cant-overcome.html

[ngineerParticipant]

[quote=22092]O was pathetic? Really?

They had 560 yards of offense. 360 yds passing, 200 yds rushing. 8 different receivers caught the ball. Turnovers killed us but we moved the ball at will. Nick and Dom played very well. Mish is a real weapon.
Want to complain about our defense however…go right ahead.

One observation. Why are we still using a 265# NG when we have a 295# player on the end. Our NG was getting pushed all over the place. Just an observation.

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Cavenas is on the end because they figure he has more chances to disrupt going one on one with the OT rather than getting double teamed all the time at NG. Matter of philosophy at the moment, and maybe they mix it up, but that is the reasoning. Plus, Cavenas is quick for his size.

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