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  • #22115
    ngineer
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    [quote=22094]We suck. Can’t tackle, cant catch, cant run, fumbles, interceptions, the play calling was horrible. It’s gonna be another very long year.

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    200 yards rushing???? Don’t disagree with some of the other observations, but when you get 560 yards of offense, how can you be so upset over play calling? In the course of every game there will be a handful of plays that I will scratch my head over, but usually it’s because of wanting to set up a subsequent play or the coaches think something will work from what they are seeing up top. Our problem is not the offense. It is execution on both sides of the ball.

    #22116
    ngineer
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    If we are to have a successful season, it will be up to the defense. There is plenty of O to beat all remaining opponents if we can hold them under 30. Championships are built on defense. I feel like we have reverted to the Hank Small years where we put up fantastic numbers, but the overall record was barely over .500. Something has to be done on that side of ball. The loss of Coach K has had more of an impact on this team than the loss of Cecchini.

    #22117
    RichH
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    Coach K a genius at devising D scheme and calling games. Problem now is not scheme as much as fact that we dont tackle.
    I do like Andy’s post game comments quoted by LFN. He must light a fire with players. Focus,focus,focus….

    #22118

    TMH
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    Another stat to chew on:
    The 2011 football team with Lum, Spadola. Barkett, Sherman was by far the most explosive football team in the last 15 years avg 469.6 yds/game. Second was a Borda led team at 407 ypg.
    This year’s vanilla, bad play calling, easily predicted, let’s get a new OC, bring Chick back team is averaging 470 ypg and doing it with the best run/pass mix in those 15 years. The problem is not the offense. Cut down the turnovers and it will be just fine.

    #22119

    Lehigh74
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    Not sure how anyone can criticize the play calling. We essentially moved the ball at will. Obviously, the turnovers and the horrendous defense were the difference in the game. Not sure how Coen can allow the defense to be as consistently terrible as it has been, year after year, without making the changes necessary to improve things on that side of the ball. Supposedly, we are using a different scheme this year. I don’t notice any real difference in the scheme or the results. We had no sacks and put no pressure on the Princeton quarterback. Every time our opponent runs a sweep it goes for big yardage. We consistently miss tackles turning short gains into long gains.

    #22120

    TMH
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    Several things I noticed at the game last night.
    1.)Princeton has about 130 players on their roster (an estimate based on how many #s were duplicated).
    2.)My beef last year was that our players are out of position.
    I had always been under the impression that a team is built from the inside out. One puts their beef on the inside to stuff the run and the speed and quickness to the outside. Last year we had 245# Laub playing OL and Schuerman feasted on it and 210# Caslow playing inside LB.
    As I mentioned earlier 295# Cavenas was playing DE and 265# Palma was playing inside. I focused on this for several drives when the ball was on my end of the field. Palma was being driven backwards consistently and plays that should have been stopped went for 10 yds. Meanwhile their RBs were constantly getting to the edge. Our LBs are listed as 215#, 215# and 225# on the outside. Caslow is ia beast but in a SS body. He absolutely has a nose for the football, is about the same size as Githens and runs the 40 in the same time as Tyler Ward. He makes our defensive backfield bigger and allows for a bigger LB to man the middle. Just my opinion.
    3.)Princeton had far less student participation than Lehigh does at their games (actually Lehigh crowd may have been bigger than Princetons’) and the stadium is right on campus….plus they had fireworks after the game…go figure.

    #22121
    RichH
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    Caveness better where he is. Palma game but Mitchell a better space eater at 285. Caslow is our best player on D. Agree he would improve back 5 immeasurably at SS. Kondas at 235 stronger inside along with Ripanti. We still cant control off tackle runs. Stubbs OK and Johnson a pass rusher. Up to Rover to seal that run outside OT.
    Moving pieces around does little without improving tackling.smh

    #22122

    LehighGuy
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    I hope the D staff makes changes. I doubt they will. We have to try something or someone else because the present group isnt working. I agree TMH, put Cavenas at NG. Let him be doubled, it should free somebody up. He will still cause damage IMO. Wish we give the young corners a shot. Mccloskey replaced lawson?? Is he hurt?? The front 7 isnt that bad, they made plays, the secondary is the weakest link, and we wont change it. A passing team will destroy us. #1 and 26 can’t be trusted. When #1 returned the fumble, it soldified him never being replaced. His one good play negates all his bad plays. And leaks, my god dont get me started. What do those two have over the staff????

    #22123

    LehighGuy
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    With all that being said, our goals are still in front of us. Even with the limited plays are O can still put up points. Our D however is still worse than ever. The PL isnt exactly on fire, someone will beat Fordham. And then the race will be up for grabs

    #22124
    RichH
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    O will score. My bet ee wont see another game with as many mistakes on O. All we need is a cosistently mediocre D. Other than Rams dont think we’ll face an opponent that we cannot beat. I hope our D is adequate to give the O a chance to win.

    #22125

    holyloch61
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    I agree with almost all the comments about the Princeton game . I would give the O a B or a B- ,the D maybe a D- .The O played really well in spurts but to many pen.,drop pass’s and some bad play calling killed or stopped a drive .No imagination ,fakery or trick plays to make P play off the ball .Running game OK but blocking on pass plays was a little suspect .I thought our O line would really be great this year ,but it seems Shaf has less than 3 seconds to view the field and make a throw .Hard to tell if Princ. D line was that good or our O line was not very good .We can only hope that the other teams in the PAT. are not as strong rushing the QB or Lehigh is in trouble .Now for the D ????? One comment had it right ,the 3 D lineman is not working .Cannot work when they are being pushed back 5 yards into the LB’s .It looks like our size up front DOES make a difference in how the line stops the run .Small LB’s does not help when you have a RB at full speed coming throu the line . Also the lack of speed on the end arounds is plain to see even to people who know nothing about football .It seems this is the subject that gets most of the negative comments every week .Are the Lehigh D players this bad or are they badly coached .

    #22126

    Hawkineer2
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    Subpar recruiting on D for at least two or three years. Too small on the line and at LB and not talented enough or athletic enough in the backfield. Hence all the missed tackles There are a few good guys but depth is lacking. I think we have really struggled to get D lineman in the new scholarship era.
    Maybe the new class will change things.

    #22127
    RichH
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    Not rsally accuratr. Biggest DL we’ve had in a very long time. Lynn working his way in which should help. ILBs very good but too small. Back 5 fast and athletic. Technique and focus are lacking as is ability and/or strength to tackle. Kids are not out of position as ofte as last year but poor tacklng has gashed the D repeatedly all season.

    #22128
    van
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    the O can put up points but they have to play a clean game, errors left CCSU in the game when it should not have been close, errors aided Penn and errors killed us at Princeton

    for those complaining about play calling, I have to disagree, sometimes the play call is what the D dictates, when they take something away it is only foolish to force a play into their strength, when you run 80 plays a game there is bound to be a few clunkers, but if you keep tally you will find more mis-executed plays than bad calls

    #22129

    toddcudd
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    I’ll chip in on the “poor recruiting” thread. Watching hoops much more closely than previous years, I feel like I have some insight. If we are competing against an FBS school – forget it, it’s over. Kids want that experience. Please pay attention to the specifics on recruiting and then make your case. For football, even recruiting vs. CAA schools we’re generally dead in the water.
    When we lose to Samford and UNC-somecrap campus, we can gripe. Otherwise, wake up and smell your **&%%$##.

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