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December 3, 2013 at 2:13 am #12503
Just watched last half of qu vs bu game, call it early scouting if you will, and I would like to tell you all I learned a lot but didn’t really. QU as we saw last year, rebounds the crap out of the ball. They are third in country in rebounds per game at 48 and they probably had 20 O boards tonight and just like versus us they got a ton of second chance points. BU, Irving and Watson are a hand full, two good guards, and Irving hit a 3 to win it with 2 seconds left in game. Morris down low is a bill, only 6’7 max but built like a bill. Kempton should be able to post up bu at will but will have to play well off the ball on D because bu will iso him on their bigs and let their bigs drive by kempton. Will be interesting to see what pans out, JC should match up well.
December 3, 2013 at 2:19 am #12504One more thought, and not to beat a dead horse, but I don’t love that we play two full conference schedules each year, that being the PL and NEC….but having said that, keeping Q on the schedule is fine with me. Moore is a good coach, they are usually a good team, and importantly/selfishly are 2 hours from the home front so an easy drive to CT for the game.
Also, keep Bryant for the same logic!
December 3, 2013 at 5:04 pm #12511Sorry Hoops, I would dump them both in a heartbeat for a legit A-10, Big East style team. You can’t even claim them as strong academic compatriots like an Ivy game. Although, I hear Quinnipiac has a very nice arena.
December 3, 2013 at 5:44 pm #12513I’m with Hoops on this one. The difficulty in mid-major scheduling has been discussed extensively on this board, and if you have a solid mid-major that will play you annually, I think you keep them on the schedule. Not to mention that QU’s size and rebounding prowess are always a good test since their size/style is much different from a typical PL squad. QU has been solid for years now, and as Hoops said Moore is a good coach.
St. Francis (PA) on the other hand has been awful for a long long time, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.
A-10 games would be awesome, but I don’t see a need for more than 3 BCS away games a year. That will pay the bills and get some TV games. More than 3 and you are making it very difficult to have a decent OOC schedule.
December 3, 2013 at 8:42 pm #12514Allow me to play devil’s advocate for a moment. In the last game, Lehigh suited up 10 guys. (1 senior, 1 junior, 2 sophs…only 1 of which played college basketball before this year and 6 freshmen). Most of these newcomers were used to success and being an integral part of that success.
Lehigh started the season with Minnesota, Rider (19 wins last season),Fordham, Houston, Pitt, Texas Southern (15-2 in-conference), South Dakota St. In all but 2 games, they got beat up. I started seeing a loss of confidence in several of those freshmen. I started seeing a lack of aggressiveness and attitude in our young front court. This team needed a game like Sacred Heart and another one right after it to continue the trend. I saw not only a change in results on Sunday but a change in attitude, esp with JC and SW. Hopefully AP will get some mojo back soon too. We could have scheduled St Joes or Drexel instead….and we could have have gotten our heads handed to us 2 more times. That’s no fun for the players nor the fans after a time. I fully understand the theory of what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger but I think that gets better results for a veteran team, which we are not this year. The next few games will help us get our legs under us again and apply some things we learned from the 1st 8 games.
Now let the rebuttal beginDecember 3, 2013 at 9:04 pm #12516Now let the rebuttal begin
Haha, love me some discussion! I think what you say makes a lot of sense.
I also think it might have been home cooking as much as the opponent. We dismantled Rider (RPI 275) and Sacred Heart (306) at home. Yet lost or struggled against Houston (202), TX Southern (269), and SDSU (305) on the road.
Overall, I agree though. I’ve advocated before for the 1/3 splits. 1/3 reach games (BCS garauntees), 1/3 toss ups, and 1/3 “should wins”. Nothing wrong with scheduling a few games you expect to win handily. Right now, of Lehigh’s 13 OOC opponents 8 have RPI’s over 200, and 6 have RPI’s over 250. Lehigh currently through the games played has a Strength of Schedule rating of 212. I see nothing wrong with that with such a young team and I would not have wanted to play a more difficult schedule this year, just giving the numbers.
December 3, 2013 at 9:47 pm #12518After reading the above opinions on scheduling, I’m thinking this year’s may have been near perfect. Young team that needs to appreciate how difficult the Patriot League will be by getting knocked down a peg or two after constant success in high school. Then gradually building back their confidence. And each personality will respond differently, as we’ve seen. Hopefully St.Francis will really up the confidence. And that AP gets a good dose of it as well.
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December 3, 2013 at 11:43 pm #1252690 – you might have not understood my post, I was saying how I hate our full boat annual NEC slate but if I could keep one team on the docket it probably would be Q. As I have pounded the table for previously, I am all about an A-10 game or some big 5 games to entice local community and Alumni to attend games, also some good teams to play each year.
Also am starting to agree with jimk that reed standard schedule philosophy that never changes actually might play well for this team for reasons jimk outlines, but lets not pretend this was a conscious strategy decision just the standard schedule that panned out perhaps for this team.
Also 90 Q stadium is very cool, ask 65 about it next time you are him, nice mid major gym.
December 4, 2013 at 12:21 am #12527Found this on a Northwestern blog when Carmody got fired & potential names bounced around. I was curious what the good doctor’s PHD emphasis was. Had to cut & paste’cause it’s too long to remember this time of day: “Ph.D. from Wayne State in instructional technology with a cognate in sports administration.” What’s a cognate? And does it help scheduling?
December 4, 2013 at 5:24 pm #12532I know I feel kinda silly about griping about our strength-of-schedule, preseason. At this point in time, I certainly wouldn’t have wanted it to be any tougher; youngs guys can probably be damaged by too many sound beatings. They need to believe that they can win.
That said, I would still love to see more of our “reach” games be against regional teams – A10 and philly schools being prime candidates. Is there a benefit to tournies like The Legends Classic that I’m overlooking? It annoys me that even if the stars aligned and everything broke our way against one of the big boys, we don’t get to advance. Do we enter those for some “exposure”, and the opportunity to play in the second, regional round? Or is there a financial benefit of some kind to the program?
My biggest hopes for tonight’s game: a solid win, a very strong performance on the boards, AP to resurface as a scorer, and to see at least one of our dinged guys back on the court. It was mentioned in another thread, but I too am concerned about the complete lack of info on AD’s status.December 4, 2013 at 5:36 pm #12534Is there a benefit to tournies like The Legends Classic that I’m overlooking? It annoys me that even if the stars aligned and everything broke our way against one of the big boys, we don’t get to advance. Do we enter those for some “exposure”, and the opportunity to play in the second, regional round? Or is there a financial benefit of some kind to the program?
I think there is the normal financial benefit that comes with playing at a high major. However, I think the real reason the staff loves these tournaments so much is that it is 4 games in one package. With the frequent complaints about scheduling difficulties (and how late we release our schedule every year), the idea of closing one deal that equals 4 games is probably pretty enticing to the coaches.
December 4, 2013 at 5:39 pm #12535If anyone cares to skim the article below, it is about how difficult it is for Bruiser Flint at Drexel to schedule, and especially to get home games at their small and slightly run-down home gym.
http://philahoops.com/drexel/1654/flint-explains-drexels-scheduling-difficulty
This is what makes no sense to me. Lehigh and Drexel have both been pretty decent the last few years. They both complain about how difficult it is to schedule. They are 90 minutes apart. Why are they not playing each other? A Lehigh/Drexel series would be GREAT for Lehigh. Sign a 6 year alternate site deal right now. That’s a game that might actually bring some visiting and/or casual fans to Stabler and I’m sure some Lehigh fans would show up at Drexel as well.
December 4, 2013 at 11:56 pm #12542Drexel v. Lehigh….. I agree, makes all the sense in the world.
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