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November 28, 2010 at 3:17 pm #2875
where are all the posters that said we couldn’t compete w/scholarship teams :?:
November 28, 2010 at 4:48 pm #2877"Lex" wrote: where are all the posters that said we couldn’t compete w/scholarship teams :?:
I’m as proud as the next person with this win. Clearly LU can compete with the MVC. However, before we discount the value of scholarships, let’s see how we do against the power conference in FCs football, the CAA. Our previous showing this year showed a fairly large talent gap.
As someone else stated, the gap between the CAA and Southern Conference and the rest of the FCSsworld is pretty dramatic. These are the teams that LU needs to ultimately recruit and compete against going forward.
I prefer to look at as imagine if. If we can get this class of talent without scholarships, imagine what could be possible with scholarships, W&M, Richmond, and Villanova type teams.
November 28, 2010 at 7:01 pm #2879Remember we still have the AI. Football scholarships would likely give us more depth, but the starting elevens would not change drastically. Maybe one or two each on starting offense and defense. Of course that might mean a lot. Would make recruiting a lot easier for the coaches, that is for sure.
November 28, 2010 at 9:56 pm #2881can someone please describe the details of this Patriot League "Academic Index"?
thanks in advance
November 29, 2010 at 12:09 am #2883I am far from an expert, but here is what I understand:
The "Academic Index" is a formula that combines the GPA with the SAT or ACT score and is based on a scale of 240 total points. In both the Ivy and Patriot leagues, league presidents have agreed to use the "AI" as a guideline for a prospect’s academic admissibility. The AI is therefore a recognizable academic measuring stick whereby busy college coaches can quickly assess an academic recruit’s admissibility.
B. Football
In the sport of football, student-athletes may not be awarded financial aid based
upon athletic ability in excess of demonstrated need (also known as grants-in-aid).
Any football student-athlete receiving an academic merit-based financial aid award
above need should have academic credentials similar to other students generally
receiving academic merit awards at that institution. They shall be reported
annually, along with their academic index, to the Executive Director for review by
the Policy Committee at its spring meeting. Further, institutional data on all
financial aid offers (within need and above need) made to incoming student athletes
participating in football shall be reported to the Executive Director and
reviewed by the Policy Committee at its fall meeting. Student-athletes receiving
athletic merit-based financial aid awards in sports other than football are not
eligible to participate in Patriot League football.Note: Per approval by the Council of Presidents, Fordham will begin awarding
merit aid to its football class entering in the fall of 2010. [May 2009]December 10, 2010 at 3:51 pm #2977Everyone come over and vote in the Scholarship Decision Poll on the Lafayette board.
December 10, 2010 at 8:28 pm #2978http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.co … no-on.html
Big news out of Lafayette way – a "No" vote on football scholarships from president Dan Weiss.
December 10, 2010 at 9:15 pm #2979The news really is not that Pards were voting NO but that Weiss went public with it. LC has always been in the NO column.
December 10, 2010 at 10:07 pm #2980"RichH" wrote: The news really is not that Pards were voting NO but that Weiss went public with it. LC has always been in the NO column.
We all knew that Lafayette would vote "No." But no one expected the President of the College to throw in in our face that way. Boasting that he didn’t consult with the Trustees? Jabbering about a non-existent "partnership" with Ivy and what he thinks is best for the Patriot League? And the generous alumni who built our new facilities – can you imagine what they must be thinking?
December 10, 2010 at 11:38 pm #2981sort of ironic that the team needs scholarships the most votes no.
Lafayette is run by imbeciles.
I’m throughly enjoying their total collapse in Football. :lol:
December 11, 2010 at 7:16 pm #2983"Lex" wrote: sort of ironic that the team needs scholarships the most votes no.
Lafayette is not the team that needs scholarships the most.
December 11, 2010 at 8:21 pm #2984"Lex" wrote: sort of ironic that the team needs scholarships the most votes no.
Lafayette is run by imbeciles.
I’m throughly enjoying their total collapse in Football. :lol:
I just hope Lehigh ultimately does what is best for Lehigh. I believe that LU believes that scholarships are best for them and I agree. Let the school in Easton do what the heck they want. And if The Rivalry continues with LU having scholarships and LC not having them, I will shed no tears for the Leopards. All of the guilt will lie with LC’s administration, not LUs decision to move forward.
I hope all the Leopard fans enjoy their friggin’ jumbo tron and lights. :mrgreen:
December 13, 2010 at 5:36 pm #2988What upsets me is that moron Weiss goes in the paper and makes statements about costs and effects on other programs at the school. It almost makes me think he never actually read or conducted a study about the costs involved with scholarships… As we have stated here many times before, there is very little increase in cost to go to scholarships – it just forces the coaches to be wiser with their money decisions. Colgate’s study is the only one that I have intimate knowledge of, but their people believe scholarships may actually HELP their academic profile!
December 13, 2010 at 7:37 pm #2989Well Bill certainly must agree. It is amazing what a combination of arrogance, ignorance of facts and incompetence can achieve. Weiss not only embarassed himself but also Lafayette and the PL. Bucknell spent the time and $$ to study scholarships. One would think Lc would have done the same over the last 2 yrs. Guess not. Weiss decides to be an ideologue and squeeze only such information as agrees with his preconceptions into his rationale for dispensing with the issue forthwith
What is it that makes him want to be a lickspittle for the Ivies? Feel bad for all those LC alums like the Bourgers who put so much $$ into facilities that Weiss would rather use to worship the Ivy Gods. :x
December 13, 2010 at 8:31 pm #2990"Bill" wrote: As we have stated here many times before, there is very little increase in cost to go to scholarships
That is incorrect. Due to Title IX rules, some PL schools (probably most) have a significant increase in costs if they go scholarship in football.
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