Scholarships not happening

Forum Forum Lehigh Sports Lehigh Football Scholarships not happening

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  • #165

    Lex
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    with the worst unemployment in 26 years and after Gast just announced the smallest tuition increase in 40 years do you think she’s gonna now turn around and say "and BTW,we’re giving away $3 million annually to football recruits"

    and as far as fordham threatening the PL the PL will tell them "don’t let the door hit you on the way out" and then the PL will call Marist or Bryant or someone similar.

    get this Lehigh fans — be happy with we’re we are. if we get scholarships next you’ll wanna be playing Penn State. it’ll never end with your craving for big time college FB. Just go buy the DirecTV College FB pay per view and let this go.

    #166

    Neighbor
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    Say what?

    I just think Lehigh fans take their football endeavor seriously, as they do wrestling. They don’t want to see their institution, their coaches playing under anything less than equal terms.

    For me, it’s also a matter of lost opportunity. The Lehigh Valley is actually a very large area. It can support a national player in football at the FCS level. Let’s do all we can to make that possible.

    #167

    Lehigh74
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    Lex you are missing the point. We are not talking about spending any additional money on football. The issue is whether the coaches should have the opportunity to allocate the money, already being spent, on student athletes without regard to financial status.

    #168
    RichH
    RichH
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    Lex,

    As 74 pointed out , your pessimism notwithstanding, as a purely practical matter schollies will not cost LU any add.$ but will help us compete not only vs Ivies but also State schools. More parents are going to look there for their kids over the next 4 or 5 yrs as a cheaper alternative . Check out the Morning Call article today State apps are up PL school apps are down.

    #170

    Lex
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    74 and Rich,
    you’re both making the same 2 incorrect assumptions –1) that all, or most, of the FB players are receving a full package. that’s nowhere near true. by my son’s guess (who is a current player) about half the team is getting some aid – but very few are getting a full package. 2) and saying the two are the same is wrong. with a scholarship you don’t have to fill out all that paperwork including registering on 2 web sites. I know I’ve done it. it’s a pain in the ass and takes hours. it’s done that way purposely so parents give up. sort of like trying to return something at Home Depot. my case is a good example. I receive that crappy little Stafford LOAN – now, by Lehigh’s account, I receive fin aid. what a joke!

    bottom line, in these economic times Gast (who is NOT a sports fan) is not going to "GIVE AWAY millions of $ to satisfy a few and risk pissing off many. (including donors) And like I said, Fordham will soon find out that no one cares about their demands (and they better be careful or they’ll become the next Iona)

    #171

    PA-Ram
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    Lex – ah, yes, that Iona team that has spent as much as the top teams in FCS and then made a commitment to upgrade their team further … but then faded away? Or was it the Iona I’m more familiar with that moved up to I-AA in name only and then killed the program when others around them increased their commitment to the sport? :?

    More than anything, though, you’ve missed the points of the posters before you completely. What is the cause of these extra millions?

    The whole point of this is that whatever Lehigh (or Fordham or whatever)’s budget currently is … is what it will be when the conversion to scholarships is done. Zero more dollars. Same budget as last year. What part of that do you not get or what part of this am I missing?

    #173

    Lex
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    forget it PA. You, and others, just don’t get it and probably never will. FB scholarships are NOT happening here. Gast will never allow it and Coen isn’t in position to push for anything after 3 years at .500 level.

    and your Iona comments made no sense. I wasn’t referring to their team, league there in or committment level. I was simply referring to them being a team w/o a league. Like Fordham will become if they leave PL….. Get it?

    bottom line….you keep dreaming of scholarships. (as has been rumored for the last 10 + years) and maybe, just maybe, you can wish it true. :lol:

    #174

    PA-Ram
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    "Lex" wrote: forget it PA. You, and others, just don’t get it and probably never will. FB scholarships are NOT happening here. Gast will never allow it and Coen isn’t in position to push for anything after 3 years at .500 level.

    bottom line….you keep dreaming of scholarships. (as has been rumored for the last 10 + years) and maybe, just maybe, you can wish it true. :lol:

    you still didn’t answer the question. your entire first post was based on the state of the economy and the extra $$ scholarships would cost. You’ve now been told that they won’t cost a dime more. So what are you now basing your "FB scholarships are NOT happening here" line on?

    "Lex" wrote: and your Iona comments made no sense. I wasn’t referring to their team, league there in or committment level. I was simply referring to them being a team w/o a league. Like Fordham will become if they leave PL….. Get it?

    It made perfect sense for anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of FCS football. :shock:

    #177

    Lex
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    do you even know what rudimentary means :?:

    #178

    PA-Ram
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    "Lex" wrote: do you even know what rudimentary means :?:

    I do. Want me to provide a link for you? ;)

    That way you can catch up and finally answer the simple question that you now seem fearful of addressing.

    In case you forgot, here was your quote:

    "Lex" wrote: "with the worst unemployment in 26 years and after Gast just announced the smallest tuition increase in 40 years do you think she’s gonna now turn around and say "and BTW,we’re giving away $3 million annually to football recruits"

    So if Lehigh takes their current budget for equivalencies and simply converts them to scholarship, where is the need for extra money coming from?

    #179

    Wizard
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    My understanding is that most of the PL schools are already giving financial aid that is equivilant to the amount of money needed to fund somewhere from 50 to 58 scholarships. So they are really taking that money out of one pocket and putting it the other.

    So its possible that some additional funding may be needed to cover a few additional scholarships to meet the number needed to qualify for getting a "payday" game against a Rutgers, Duke, Syracuse, etc. That additional income will easily cover the original outlay.

    Now if your against scholarships because its too much paperwork or because you feel your son isnt good enough to get one, that’s fine. But at least try to understand, it is not going to be a money thing.

    #180

    Lex
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    so you needed a link for a definition of rudimentary :lol:

    I explained my reasoning twice. you’ve proved you’re no longer worth more typing. or even a cut and paste.

    put down the dictionary and re-read my posts. you’ll learn something. :lol:

    sweet scholarship dreams ;)

    #181

    TMH
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    I never quite understood the scholarship arguments. In terms of #s, I had always believed the admissions was an inexact science. Every year, the University aims for perhaps 1,200 incoming freshman. Regardless of how they get to that #, I had always wondered what the true cost of another 20 students were. Is it just another seat or 2 in the back of some classrooms? Do the professors get paid more if there is another student or 2? We somehow find a way to give free tuition to the the children of university employees. For years there was even reciprocity with other colleges.
    Student-athletes work for this perk. When invested correctly,they can bring about enormous goodwill to the University. Like it or not, a big win in athletics will bring about bigger headlines than the creation of a new academic curriculum. I remember hearing that the dean at Texas A & M was lamenting that the opening of a biology wing garnered a writeup on page 26 of their hometown newspaper but their win over Texas got a big headline in the New York Times.
    Positive news yields more applicants which raises the average SAT. Positive news generates the warm fuzzies in alumni donors. I personally don’t see the downside of scholarships unless they bring down the academic standards of the college.

    #182

    PA-Ram
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    "Lex" wrote: so you needed a link for a definition of rudimentary :lol:

    I explained my reasoning twice. you’ve proved you’re no longer worth more typing. or even a cut and paste.

    put down the dictionary and re-read my posts. you’ll learn something. :lol:

    sweet scholarship dreams ;)

    I can’t stop laughing, Lex. If I understand this correctly, you’re now expecting us to drop this wild scholarship fantasy based upon your son’s rough estimate that barely any players at Lehigh get much money. Too much.

    FWIW, Lehigh is a school that currently has more than 50 equivalencies.

    #183

    colorless-raider
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    I don’t recall hearing from the clueless Lex before these posts and I don’t think we need his uniformed views to be answered. Let’s all just lobby for scholarships and hope for the best or be prepared to return to very lite Ivy.

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