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  • #21671

    youngfan
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    ….greatness does not appear to begin with runs into the line for zero yardage or the absence of a pass defense. The first half has had one very good play so far and then back to Andy’s “smash mouth” scheme that the opponents deal with easily. The lack of pass defense is surprising.

    #21672

    LehighGuy
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    The D is the D from last yr. Poor tackling, DBs unsure if where they suppose to be. Unlike Urban Meyer of OSU, sho holds his players responsible for their actions. We continue to trot players out there that cant tackle or cover, and are not afraid to lose their position. If you were afraid to lose your spot, I think you would play better. Our players have no fear. The O line included

    #21674

    lfnadmin
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    That could have gone better.

    #21675

    Doc Qb
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    Folmar must go. No scheme, rhyme or reason, no plan. just turning pages in the book. I’ll have more to say after I drain my XL-sized Pepto Bismol. Sad.

    #21677
    hawkineer
    hawkineer
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    Andy was happy with fight and spunk shown by the team during the first half based on the radio interview. Turning point of the game according to Andy, the fumbled punt attempt. I would think that the defense’s inability to get off the field (except after a JMU score) was the story of the 1st half.

    As others have said, we’re saying a lot of the same things this year that we said last year.

    We’ll see what the 2nd half brings.

    #21680

    Hawkineer2
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    The road back to greatness is not with this coaching staff, the Kutztown offense, and the delusions of smash mouth football. LU does not have the horses for that and it has a Swiss cheese defense, is error prone, has too few passing plays that get separation, does not have a strong enough o- line, or an accurate passing game, etc.
    I hope we are ready for G’Town and do not lose too many members of the team when we play the knee cappere/chop blockers from Yale.

    #21681

    just a fan
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    LG you took the words right outta my mouth. DBs can’t get off from blocks WR no separation. Line to small and Nasty enough. No blocks down field.. freshman is bright spots and get no burn. At 38-7 what did we have to loose.You right. No Accountability what so ever

    Sad

    #21682

    Hawkineer2
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    Lose their positions?!
    To whom?
    Are you joking?
    Recruiting has been weak before this last year so there are few players to lose a position to.

    On another front, NS lacks the passing skills needed for a team that MUST pass well: i.e. Air Lehigh. Also, an agile, surprise oriented offense does not resonate with the plodding AC/DF combination. Their play calling is poor and they are unable to spread things out enough strategically for the receivers to separate.

    And the beat goes on.

    #21684
    RichH
    RichH
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    Folmar must go,without doubt. I no longer can excuse his performance.
    We were totally outclasssd by a much better team. Andy touting our fight us just anoying.
    Folmar refuses to throw vertically. Nick’s arm. Well,seems not as he wouldn’t let Brad throw vertially. No adjustments to JMU’s dominance of LOS. Just more of the same ru.s up the gut. Hope A.dy is happy now that he has his smash mouth football.
    Only attempt was WR screens and draws which were spectacularly unsuccessful. JMU was really that much better than us. Gotta outscheme them cause you aint gonna outplay them.
    D Good God were they hapless. Front 6 actually not bad but back 5 were useless. No one back there can tackle. Credit to JMU backs but how many arm tackles did hey run through. All of them! Players often in position but couldn’t finish the tackle.
    We will not face another of this talent this year.
    We can win some of them but a wi.ning season seems rather remote right now.

    #21685
    sundayamqb
    sundayamqb
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    Agree with almost all of the above.

    You can’t sugarcoat the game today; it was an embarrassment — one of just several the past two years.

    Bottom line: We do not have the horses (mentally or physically, at this point) to play with scholarship teams like JMU. Yet we once did. (At this point, who knows how we’ll be able to compete within our own league?)

    How to fix it? Easier said than done.

    Gotta wonder whether we have the coaching staff to a) recruit properly; b) execute winning game plans. How do our coordinators’/staff resumes compare with their peers in the PL? Elsewhere in FCS?

    Next few weeks will dictate whether it’s time for some major changes.

    #21686
    hawkineer
    hawkineer
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    Would love to see AC demonstrate the same anger as Charlie Strong at Texas showed this week. Pretty much demoted his entire offensive coaching staff after the ND mess. However, I don’t think AC has it in him, which is part of the problem.

    I am believing more and more that actually Andy is as much the problem as Folmer. This 3 yards and a cloud of dust was his dream. Unfortunately, it is becoming the fans nightmare.

    #21688
    RichH
    RichH
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    Our O has been successful for decades by outscheming our oppondnts not by outmanning them. We have a lot more talent than many of our past teams. Seems to me that this may have gone to Andy’s head thinking we are good enough to run everybody elses O and beat them with our talent. Nope.

    #21689

    Hawkineer2
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    Correct – more of an AC issue. Both the O and D staff are weak. AC hired his supporting group including the plodder, Folmar.
    Not a good idea for AC to start raging about. It would look stupid and alienate players and others.

    I think they should go with the freshman QB and re ignite a passing oriented O. The rough and tough run game is a failure – whether up the gut or around the ends. The OL is not up to it. NS’s passing is too error prone.

    #21690
    RichH
    RichH
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    We ussd the pass to set up our runs. Over the years we’ve had lots of great ru.ning attacks based on that premise. OK,we no longer run AirLehigh and now run a shotgun option to utilize Shaf’s running. OK,but the pass option is ltd to throws no longer than 10-15 yds. If we’re go.na run this tupe of O do it,opn up ghe field. Right now our O more reminiscent of Woody Hayes.

    #21691
    StablerBum
    StablerBum
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    If I have my dates correct, Andy Coen is 34-36 without Dace Cecchini and 29-6 with him. I’m not a huge football follower so my numbers may be off. Coen seems to be completely mediocre as a head coach with the exception of three years with a certain offensive coordinator. Not to mention that the program he has turned mediocre was 44-14 in the 5 seasons preceding him.

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