Not really buck. Cant say I knew him well,but met him while he sas an asst at Penn and I was in HS. ngimeer summed it u best,he was a clasdu guy. He had a mediocjre time at Lafayette,a little over 500 I think and then went on to HC at Penn for about a ddcade .He stayed at Penn in the AD office until he was hired by the Eaglds. He was perhaps not a great game coach but he was a good HC in difficult situations at both schools.